We move back a generation from yesterday's post to William Neill and his wife Ann.
From his daughter's marriage record, we know he is a Dairy Man and that she is from Hanwell. When I began this last year, several others on ancestry.com had been there before me, making the research easy. But I also discovered that some public member trees had Ann Fox for his wife, while others had Ann Howden. In looking for the documentary record of this family, I was also on the lookout for any clues to her true identity.
I will start by progressing forwards in time through census records from 1841. Living in Hanwell, Middlesex we have:
William Neill 40 Cow Keeper Y[es, born in Middlesex]
Ann Do 40 Y
William Do 13 Y
George Do 10 Y
James Do 8 Y
Edmond Do 6 Y
Jane Do 3 Y
The 1841 Census does not list relationships, although we might infer from the above that William and Ann are parents, while the five minors are their children.
In 1851, still in Hanwell:
William Jas Neill Head Mar 57 Dairy Man & Cow Keeper Uncertain
Ann Do Wife Mar 58 do Wife Norfolk, Caustee
William Do Son U 23 Labourer Middx, Hanwell
George Do do do 20 Do do do
Jane Do Daughter do 13 do do
By the 1851 Census, relationship to head of household is listed, and we can confirm three of the children. We are also able to a middle name for William. And there are discrepancies between 1851 and 1841 as to place of birth for William and Ann. In 1841, they are both reported as born in Middlesex (Y on the form). In 1851, Ann's place of birth is in Norfolk (although there is no such place as Caustee - or even Caversfield as the ancestry transcript incorrectly has it). Meanwhile, William's place of birth is listed as "Uncertain", when it should at least have Middlesex. I suspect the census enumerator was dealing with Ann, and that she was uncertain as to where he was born.
In 1861, on Boston Road, Hanwell (the previous returns do not list a street):
William Neill Head Mar 64 Dairy Man Middlesex, Brentford
Ann Neill Wife Mar 67 Norfolk, Cosly
William Neill Son Mar 33 Coal Merchant Middlesex, Hanwell
Charlotte Neill Daur-in-Law Mar 30 Do Ealing
Jane Stroud Grand Daur 11 Do Hanwell
John Savage Do Son 8 Do Westminster
Elizabeth Neill Do Daur 1 mo Do Hanwell
This census return is highly informative. William (senior) has a place of birth: Brentford, Middlesex. A possible baptism, allowing for non-standardized spellings, would be the one recorded at St Mary Ealing (also known as St Mary Hanwell):
Neal William James son of William & Ann.
born November 5th: 1796. baptized October 15th: 1797
Before widespread literacy, names were not standardized in spelling so it's worth looking for variants of a name. For Neill, that might include Neil, Neal, Neale, Niall etc. I have not yet looked, but there are likely some siblings baptized here in the 1790s as well.
Ann's place of birth is still Norfolk, but now Cosly - another nonexistent place.
It is reassuring to find Jane Stroud here, confirming that this is indeed the family of Ann Neill, who married Henry Stroud, the Hairdresser of Hanwell.
William Neill (junior) is now married, and presumably Charlotte is his wife. We find at Hampstead St. Stephen the Martyr on 21 April 1860, the following marriage record:
Groom: William Neill 30 Bachelor Labourer Portland Town
father: William Neill Cow-Keeper
Bride: Charlotte Savage 30 Widow Victoria Terrace
father: John Hill Labourer
Signed: William Neill and Charlotte Savage
Witnessed by: Henry Webb and Elizabeth Webb
Thus, John Savage, the grandson of William and Ann, is Charlotte's son from her previous marriage. The record for this marriage to John Savage is recorded at St Mary Hanwell on 21 July 1850.
The one-month-old Elizabeth Neill of the 1861 Census return must the daughter of William and Charlotte baptized at St Mary Hanwell (who was actually 2 months old by census night):
born Jany 26 1861 [bapt.] Feb 24 Elizabeth William & Charlotte Neill
Hanwell Milkman
This corresponds to BMD Birth Index:
Elizabeth Neill Mar1861 Brentford 3a 79
At St Mary, Hanwell, two brothers of Elizabeth are also baptized:
William James Neill born 28 Feb 1864, bapt. 27 Mar
Harry Walter Neill born 23 Oct 1865, bapt. 19 Nov
In the five records above, the occupation for William (junior) is given as Coal Merchant, Labourer (three times) and Milkman. As we see below, William James Neill (senior) is described in a probate document as both Dairyman and Coal Merchant. It is possible that the son was carrying on his father's trades, however improbable the combination seems.
Death records for William James Neill:
BMD Death Index William James Neill Jun1864 Brentford 3a 60
Burial at St Mary's Hanwell 24 April 1864, aged 68
National Probate Calendar, England and Wales
NEILL William James
22 November [1864] Letters of Administration
(with the Will annexed) of the Personal estate
and effects of William James Neill late of
Hanwell in the County of Middlesex Dairy-
man and Coal Merchant deceased who died
20 April 1864 at Hanwell aforesaid were granted
at the Principal Registry to Ann Neill of
Hanwell aforesaid Widow the Relict the
Residuary Legatee named in the said Will she
having been first sworn.
Death records for Ann Neill:
BMD Death Index Ann Neill Mar1865 Brentford 3a 62
Burial at St Mary's Hanwell 5 February 1865, aged 73
National Probate Calendar, England and Wales
NEILL Ann
18 February [1865] Letters of Administration
of the Personal estate of Ann
Neill late of Alpha Cottage Hanwell in the
County of Middlesex Widow deceased who
died 30 January 1865 at Alpha Cottage afore-
said were granted at the Principal Registry
to Sarah Bucknell of 94 Tyler-street Lambeth
in the County of Surrey Widow the daughter
of the said Deceased she having been first sworn.
The daughter Sarah, we have not yet seen. She must be the one baptized at St Mary Hanwell (non-standardized spelling again):
[Born 1821] May 19 [bapt.] June 4 Sarah William & Ann Neale Hanwell Milkman
Lambeth St Mary the Less have the following marriage record, dated 12 July 1855:
Groom: Robert Bucknell Full Age Widower Baker 94 Tyer's Street
father: Robert Bucknell (decd) Farmer
Bride: Sarah Neill Full Age Spinster 94 Tyer's Street
father: William Neill Cow Keeper
signed: Robert Bucknell and Sarah Neill
witnessed by: George Neill and Elizabeth Barker
Robert Bucknell (the baker) dies 1862. Sarah remarries the well-named Thomas Barley, Licensed Victualler, as recorded at Newington, St Mary on 29 November 1870.
In addition to the children of William Neill, Cow Keeper, and his wife Ann shown in the census returns, we have the following:
Ann
There is no record of her baptism at St Mary Hanwell, and the parish register
for St Nicholas Chiswick is not available online.
Of course, we do know she is a daughter of William Neill Dairy Man from
her marriage record to Henry Stroud, Hairdresser of Hanwell.
Hanwell St Mary 21 July 1845
BMD Death Index Ann Stroud Sep1895 Romford 4a 231 Age:77
Charles
Charles Naill born 26 January 1822, baptized 3 March
Married 1. Charlotte Bunce
BMD Marriage Index Jun1845 Brentford 3 5 (Charles Neill and Charlotte Bunce)
Married 2. Louisa Frampton
Hanwell St Mary 2 April 1888
Occupation: Labourer
BMD Death Index Charles Neill Dec1904 Brentford 3a 40 Age:82
Eliza
Eliza Neall born 19 August 1824, baptized 12 September
Married William Farr (Farm Labourer/Hay Binder)
BMD Marriage Jun1846 Brentford 3 7 (William Farr and Eliza Neill)
BMD Death Eliza Farr Mar1895 Brentford 3a 112 Age:69
Sarah
Sarah Neale born 19 May 1826, baptized 4 June
Married 1. Robert Bucknell (Baker)
Lambeth St Mary the Less 12 July 1855
Married 2. Thomas Barley (Licensed Victualler)
Newington St Mary 29 November 1870
BMD Death Sarah Barley Sep1896 Lambeth 1d 294 Age:70
William
William Neill born 28 December 1827, baptized 20 January 1828
Married Charlotte Hill (widow Savage)
Hampstead St Stephen the Martyr 21 April 1860
Occupation: Labourer (in 1861 Coal Merchant and in 1891 Cow Keeper)
BMD Death Index William Neill Sep1897 Wandsworth 1d 478 Age:69
Martha
Martha Neill born 2 August 1829, baptized 23 August
Burial at Hanwell St Mary 18 July 1830 aged 11 months
George
George Neill born 5 March 1831, baptized 29 April
Married Emily Guerrier (widow Colwell)
BMD Marriage Mar1858 Westminster St Mary 1a 337
(George Neill and Emily Colwell)
Occupation: Baker
Died after 1891 Census
James
James Neill born 18 March 1832, baptized 7 April
Married 1. Ellen Kendrick
St Pancras Parish Chapel 17 December 1857
Married 2. Elizabeth Ligg (widow Smith)
Pentonville St Silas 31 January 1878
Occupation: Railway Porter
BMD Death Index James Neill Sep1898 Pancras 1b 64 Age:65
Burial 12 September 1898 St Pancras Parish Chapel
Edmund
Edmund Neill born 19 December 1834, baptized 18 January 1835
Married Mary Ann Emmerton
Haggerston All Saints 26 May 1861
Occupation: Police Constable (1911 Census has Police Railway Pensioner)
BMD Death Index Edmund Neill Mar1914 Edmonton 3a 634 Age:79
National Probate Calendar records death on 26 January 1914
Jane Hannah Fox
Jane Anna Neill born 20 December 1837, baptized 14 January 1838
Married Edward William Lewonskei (Blacksmith, and latterly Oil and Colourman)
BMD Marriage Index Sep1858 Kensigton 1a 45
(Jane Hannah Fox Neill and Edward William Lewonskei)
BMD Death Index Jane Hannah F Lewonskei Dec1901 West Ham 4a 152 Age:63
(Edward W Lewonskei West Ham 4a 144 Age:66
This youngest daughter, named Jane Hannah Fox Neill, suggests the correct maiden name for her mother Ann. In addition, there is a three-year-old Ann Fox Neill, the daughter of James Neill and Ellen (Kendrick) reported in the 1871 Census at 11 Hampden Street, Somers Town, St Pancras. St Pancras parish records have her born 21 January 1868, and baptized 9 March, corresponding to BMD Birth Index Ann Fox Neill Jun1868 Pancras 1b 117.
The marriage record for William Neill and Ann Fox is just down the road from Hanwell at Chiswick St Nicholas:
William James Neill of this Parish
and Ann Fox of this Parish
were married in this Church by Banns...
... this Twenty Third Day of
November in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred and seventeen
By me Thos Frere Bowerbank Vicar
This Marriage was solemnized between us:
the mark of X William James Neill
the mark of X Ann Fox
In the Presence of:
(signed) John Frayley Parish Clerk
(signed) Charlotte Harrison
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