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A previous post describes the war record of my great grandfather Henry Stroud, and documents his siblings and parents, Robert and Charlotte Stroud. In this post we follow Robert Stroud, the building contractor of Barley Hall, Ilford, back in time before his marriage, to document his siblings and parents.
The 1911 England census includes information on length of current marriage, which for Robert and Charlotte Stroud was 28 years, meaning they were married in about 1881. The parish register at Battersea St Peter for 24 December 1882 has:
Robert Stroud 24 Bachelor Labourer 173 Ingrave St Henry Stroud Hairdresser
Charlotte Norris 24 Spinster 173 Ingrave St George Norris Labourer
signed by Robert Stroud and Charlotte Norris
witnessed by Ann Matton and Benjamin Stroud
Above the entry, and in reference to Robert's age, a later vicar had added an anotation:
In entry no. 269, col. 3 for "24" in upper line read "26" corrected on the 11th February 1884 by me Joseph Miles, Vicar in the presence of Robert Stroud and Charlotte Stroud the parties married.
I have not yet found Robert's 1881 census return, but I do have one for 1871, in which a 15-year-old Robert is living with parents Henry Stroud, Hairdresser, and Ann. The household is shown at 11 Gladman's Cottages as follows:
Henry Stroud Head Mar 48 Hairdresser Middlesex, Marylebone
Ann Do Wife Mar 50 Laundress Do Hanwell
Henry Do Son Unm 18 Labourer Do Do
Robert Do Son 15 Do Do Do
Elizabeth Do Daur 13 Do Do
By 1891, Robert was an building contractor, employing workers. As we saw above, in 1882, he gives his occupation as labourer for the marriage certificate, and this occupation is also reported in the 1871 England census. He seems to have struck out on his own, certainly not following his father's occupation of hairdresser.
In 1881, Robert's parents are found at 2 Adelaide Cottages, Boston Road, Hanwell, giving ages 59 and 60, and occupations as Hairdresser and Laundress.
In 1891, they are at 2 Halfacre, Hanwell, just off the High Street. Henry, now reported aged 69, is still a hairdresser, although reported this time as Barber, and Ann, 71, no longer gives an occupation.
Henry's entry in the BMD Death Index must be:
Henry Stroud Dec1893 Brentford 3a 90 Age:73
However, it is less clear which should be Ann's.
Ann Stroud Dec1892 Henley 3a 432 Age:72
Ann Stroud Sep1895 Romford 4a 231 Age:77
The former is consistent with the ages reported in censuses, while the latter is cited by unsourced trees in ancestry.com.
Returning to Robert Stroud, in 1861 we find him with his father and siblings living opposite the Middlesex Lunatic Asylum in Norwell. However, Ann is not among them, presumably visiting somewhere. In addition to Henry, Robert and Elizabeth, two older children are still at home in 1861.
Henry Stroud Head Mar 38 Hair Dresser Middx St Marylebone
Sarah do Daughter 10 do do
William do Son 13 do do [new page]
Henry Stroud Son 8 Middx Hanwell
Robert do do 5 do do
Elizabeth do Daur 3 do do
Before Robert was born, we can follow the young family back in time to 1851, in Hanwell:
Henry Stroud Head Mar 28 Hair Dresser Mddx Marylebone
Ann Stroud Wife Mar 30 Do Do Wife do Hanwell
do do Daur 4 do do
William do Son 3 do do
Jane do Daur 1 do do
Sarah do do 1 month do do
The marriage of Henry Stroud and Ann Neill is recorded in the parish register at St Mary's Hanwell on 21 July 1845. Banns are recorded for St Mary's Paddington Green (Henry's home parish?) and St Mary's Hanwell.
Henry Stroud Full Age Bachelor Hair Dresser Hanwell John Stroud Hair Dresser
Ann Neill Full Age Spinster Hanwell William Neill Dairy Man
signed by: Henry Stroud and Ann Neill
witnessed by: Charles Battey Parish Clerk and Elizabeth Dawson
Henry Stroud, hairdresser, can also be found before his marriage in the 1841 England Census. No address is given, although the census book for Acton District 5 begins at "Gospel oak near the township of New Brentford and [terminates] at the High road through the town of Hanwell". There on page 4 (out of 17) we find:
John Atwell 60 Hairdresser No[t born in Middlesex]
Ann Do 50 No
Henery Stroud 18 Prentice Do Yes
Henry's place of birth on his census returns is always St Marylebone, and his reported age gives a year of birth about 1823. The St Marylebone parish register has the following baptism for 24 March 1822:
Henry S[on] of John and Zipporah Stroud Servt [born] 22 Dec 1821
This would mean that the census ages up to 1871 are consistently one less than his real age (and thereafter match it), which is quite possible. Also, the father's occupation is not consistent between Henry's baptism and marriage documents, but this is also also possible. Related to the above baptism is in the same parish for 9 April 1818:
William S[on] of James and Zipporah Stroud Servt [born] 2 Jany1818
It seems to me likely that the baptisms here are for two brothers, and that on one of them the father's name is not correct; I find it hard to believe that in the same parish there are two Zipporahs married to a Stroud. Leaving open some room for doubt, I tend to accept the first of these baptisms as being for our future hairdresser, and the second being for his brother.
The parish register at Hanwell St Mary, records the following baptisms of the children of Henry and Ann Stroud. Many of the entries had been mis-transcibed in ancestry as "Strond", and , to find them, I had to just read through the register page by page:
Ann Sarah
Born 9 Jun 1846 bapt. 5 July 1846
At home for the 1851 Census, but I have no further record of her
William Henry
Born 1 Nov 1847 bapt. 28 Nov 1847
At home 1851 and 1861
Marries Louisa Harriett Stebbing 25 Dec 1869 Battersea St George Martyr
Occupation: Hairdresser
Still alive in 1911
Jane
Born 6 Jul 1849 bapt. 29 July 1849
At home 1851, with grandparents Neill 1861, but no further record
Sarah
Born 3 Mar 1851 bapt. 26 Mar 1851
At home 1851 and 1861
Servant 1871 to two unmarried Wilshire sisters in Hanwell
BMD Marriage Index Mar1874 Brentford 3a 100
Sarah Stroud and George Scott
Still alive in 1911: Nurse (Maternity)
Henry
Born 27 Jan 1853 bapt. 6 Mar 1853
Marries Annie Maria Johnson
Marries Fanny Wheeler
(surname according to ancestry public member trees)
Occupation: Plasterer
Death 1905
Robert
Born 15 Mar 1856 bapt. 6 Apr 1856
Details in this and the previous post.
Elizabeth
Born 16 Oct 1857 bapt. 6 Dec 1857
At home 1861 and 1871
Attendant at the Middlesex Lunatic Asylum 1881
Marries William Evans, Gentleman's Servant 18 May 1882 at Deptford St Paul
BMD Death Jun1890 Brentford 3a 59 Age:32
Burial 26 Jun 1890 St Mary's Ealing
Benjamin
Born 10 Jan 1860 bapt. 4 Mar 1860
1871 Lodger with John and Charlotte Wells in Hammersmith
1881 Servant (Barman) to Richard Hill (Licensed Victualler) in Marylebone
Marries Lydia Bland 4 Jun 1884 at St Marylebone
1891 Lodger with Fred Wm Palmer in East Ham
Occupation: Driller
No further record
Benjamin, I would not have found, but for browsing the St Mary's Hanwell parish register. He may be the Benjamin Stroud who signed as a witness on Robert Stroud's marriage registration, presented at the top of this post.
So, three generations of hairdressers: first John Stroud, according to the marriage registration for Henry Stroud and Ann Neill, second Henry Stroud himself, and thirdly his son, William Henry Stroud. And none of them, a "demon barber" I'm sure! Next up the Neills, and then Foxes and Bunnets.
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